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      2 comments  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
      sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

      Jim, you are correct that RECAP doesn't activate until you are logged into PACER or CM/ECF. I do think that even if you were logged in, as long as you access a document via the "free look" link, that you are not charged (but I have not tested this). In any case, I can see how it would be nice to have a proper download. Also, for what it's worth, I don't think it's fair to call this a Firefox problem. It's really a PACER problem because they aren't sending a sensible header or filename (presuming my guess is correct). Internet Explorer is just going more out of its way to correct their error than Firefox is.

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        under review  ·  12 comments  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
        sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

        @Jim: I'm not sure what the "only gibberish appears" problem is, but my guess is that it has to do with the fact that Firefox doesn't recognize the file as a PDF because PACER is not sending the right HTTP headers or naming the file as though it were a PDF... causing Firefox to try to display the raw text of the PDF, which is gibberish. This is, first and foremost, a problem with PACER. However, we might be able to tweak RECAP to correct for the problem so you get a proper PDF download (the same way we fix filenames and HTTP headers for files downloaded the normal way). We'll look into it. I've created a new item over here that will track the progress, and that people can vote on:
        http://recapthelaw.uservoice.com/forums/26501-general/suggestions/1409645

        sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

        We are more confident that the privacy issues we were concerned about do not exist. However, there is a more practical problem. When you click on a "free look" link from an email, you go directly to the download page for that document. In normal PACER use, you access documents by first going through a docket page. RECAP uses this docket page to construct its own docket information about the case, including the docket entry and number for the document you are about to download. When you go directly to the download page, RECAP does not get any of that, and hence has no idea where this document belongs or how to construct a docket for it. The only piece of data we have is the unique identifier for that document itself (which comes from the link).

        In theory, we might be able to hang on to these documents and their unique identifiers in the hope that someday somebody visits the docket page and gives us the remaining information we need to make the document correspond to the correct case/docket/document listing. We are somewhat ambivalent about the value of this, and have focused our efforts on more pressing issues (like updating the extension to work with Firefox 4). However, feel free to chime in here and vote this issue up if you still think it would be worthwhile.

        sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

        In order to do this, we would need to be absolutely sure that nothing is ever accessible via the "free look" emails that would not otherwise be accessible to the public. Do these ever include sealed documents? Do they require an actual log-in (either PACER or ECF) in order to view?

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          under review  ·  12 comments  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
          sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

          @Peter_from_NYC: If you are a fee-exempt user, the AO claims that, "PACER customers must refrain from the use of RECAP." They claim that these non-copyrightable public domain documents which constitute the law may not be redistributed due to a contract-like restriction imposed when you received the fee waiver.

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            sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

            medialaw, can you drop us an email at info@recapthelaw.com with more details and we can work on this with you?

            sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

            kumarpercy, can you drop us an email at info@recapthelaw.com and we can work on this with you? One explanation is that you are using an ECF login and not a PACER login. RECAP does not activate when you are using an ECF login.

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              sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

              We agree. In fact, we have already started talking to them about how to do this!

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                sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

                I recently published a draft working paper describing the budgeting process and the role of user fees. I'd welcome feedback: http://managingmiracles.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-new-working-paper-on-pacer.html

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                    planned  ·  1 comment  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                    sjschultzesjschultze commented  · 

                    I agree. Maybe we should also insert a link on PACER dockets to the RECAP docket.html

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